For The Bible Tells Me So
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Actor: Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Gene Robinson, Imogene Robinson, Isabella "Boo" McDaniel, Victor RobinsonCinematographer: James Mathers
Cinematographer: Kevin Bond
Cinematographer: Brian Knappenberger
DVD: Region Code 1
Audio: English (Original Language)
Format: Color, Dolby, DVD-Video, NTSC, Widescreen
Picture Format: 1.78:1
Running Time: 99 minutes
DVD Release Date: 2008-02-19
Audience Rating: NR (Not Rated)
Studio: First Run Features
DVD Reviews of For The Bible Tells Me So
DVD Review: An excellent movie
Summary: 5 Stars
This is a very powerful movie. It tells the story of real families struggling to come to terms with a gay or lesbian child. It was wonderful seeing some of the parents showing genuine love and acceptance of their children
It was also a treat hearing various clergy people discussing and analyzing the bible's statements about homosexuality. As someone who has spent several years studying the Hebrew Bible, I cannot stress enough the importance of studying the Hebrew Bible in conjunction with Jewish oral tradition and various other teachings. I cannot think of anything in the Hebrew Bible that is meant to be taken literally.
DVD Review: FOR THE BIBLE TELLS ME SO
Summary: 5 Stars
A must see! Teaches and clarifies unconditional love and traditions that we need to know the true meaning of... Quite liberating!DVD Review: If He hated, He wouldn't be the Lord.
Summary: 5 Stars
This DVD of "For the Bible Tells Me So" was recommended to me by one of my online friends with whom I'd discussed my Christian faith after being raised in a Jewish household. The irony is, the recommender is a Jew, himself. He said this documentary placed great emphasis on the church's negative stance on homosexuality. I discovered quickly that the DVD was available in the library system of Indianapolis and reserved it immediately. It took a couple of months to get here, but it was worth the wait.
The interviews with figures such as Dr. Mel White, Bishop V. Gene Robinson, Jacob Reitan, his parents, Peter J. Gomes and all the others were enlightening and touching. And, the archive footage of the opposition was properly childish and angering. In college, I ran with the sort of people that openly judged gays and lesbians unfairly. After graduation, I came to realize how mistaken they were. After watching this disc, I immediately decided to someday purchase a copy of it. In time, I bought it for both me and one of my dear friends.
The most climactic part of the film for me was a segment near the end. The Reitan family had ventured to the Focus on the Family headquarters in Colorado Springs to present Dr. Jim Dobson with love propaganda. They were turned away without a word, the property was carted off, the shades pulled down and the authorities called in to prevent entrance. It was pathetic the way the Reitans were arrested, because Dr. Dobson had put his fingers in his ears to block out what turned out just to be love propaganda.
When I watched that segment for the first time, I was so enraged I nearly broke up one of my guitars. But, what would that have achieved? The anger would still be there, I'd have one less instrument to use for positive purposes, and Dr. Dobson would still be what I call "a pseudo-theologian with a pseudo-reputation, spouting pseudo-spiritual lessons about a whole lot of nothing. And, the only genuine article he's got is his silver hair." (Sorry, that's paraphrasing a line from an episode of the sitcom, A Different World.) The man evidently suffers from a blind, ignorant stubbornness I call "Brick Wall Syndrome." And, the arrest of the Reitans is a clear re-creation of the incident of Sodom when the angels were assaulted by the residents. But, he is a human being, and there's always divine hope for any human.
The Lord doesn't hate gays or lesbians anymore than he hates blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, believers in Shinto, Universalist Unitarians, non-believers - or anybody. He doesn't hate the United States of America. And, He doesn't hate the Episcopal Church. He couldn't possibly see the use of apartheid, the degradation of women, revoking their right to choose or insulting other peoples' creeds, either. If He hated, He wouldn't be the Lord.
DVD Review: a very Bias film with an Agenda
Summary: 2 Stars
The problem with this film is that it doesn't provide a balanced view of the issue and portrays conservative Christians as full of hate and a danger to society.
this film is attempting to promote an agenda.
1)first, gay activists came out of the closet and began to demand their rights in society, work place etc 2)the next step They are demanding that conservatives (especially those with traditional values) recognize those rights in Churches Private groups (boy scouts, etc) and compromise thier moral values... The final goal is to make anyone speaking out against the homesexual lifestyle guilty of Discrimination and therefore subject to Civil fines ... this will eventually change from Civil Discrimination to a Criminal offense (hate speech or hate crime legislation) with those speaking out subject to Arrest or Court ordered Re-education training (Diversity /Sensitivity training etc)
to give some real life examples:
in New Mexico, Elaine Photography was found guilty of discrimination for refusing to shoot the commitment ceremony of a lesbian couple; in California a Christian doctor was found guilty of refusing to offer medical services to a lesbian woman who wanted to be artificially inseminated in order to have a baby with her partner; in Massachusetts, elementary school parents were told they did not have the right to keep their children home when homosexual issues were being discussed in class, since same-sex marriage is legal there (not to mention the fact that the courts found it more important to teach children "diversity" than to honor the wishes of the parents).
In England, an Anglican Vicar was fined and ordered to undergo equal opportunities training for refusing to hire a gay youth leader; a graduate student in the counseling program at Eastern Michigan University was expelled for refusing to affirm homosexual behavior in a private counseling session; and a Christian pastor in Canada was forbidden from speaking or writing or publishing anything that is critical of homosexual practice after writing a letter to the editor in a local newspaper. in Sweden religous leaders will lose thier license to preach if they state that homosexuality is a sin or immoral lifestyle
is homosexuality a behavour or is a person "born that way?"
the movie attempts to prove that homosexuality is not a behavour choice but rather the way a person is born and gives some case studies. (the more boys a woman has the greater likelyhood of one being Gay due to her antibodies attacking a male fetus.. if a woman has twins one is Gay their is a 70% chance the 2nd twin will also be gay etc)
let's assume Gay's are "born this way".. it doesn't matter.. the U.S. Dept of Health (HHS.GOV) states that around 3% of the population is Gay. Clearly not the majority, male/female relations are required to continue the human race without the use of modern medicine. so we are talking about an abnormality... similar to Down Syndrome, mental retardation etc people with these conditions shouldn't be hated, but helped to deal with thier disablity. either by counseling to understand why your having these feelings, or helping to live in mainstream society.
what should a traditional Christians do?
to be VERY Clear: we are not endorsing Violance against anyone. we are speaking out against Behavour This is NOT a Civil Rights issue, (not based on the color of your skin, your physical gender M/F - You can't tell a person is Gay just by looking at them)it is one of Behavour & Actions. Catholic Priests choose to practice Abstinence to increase thier spirituality According to the Bible Unmarried singles, Homosexuals shouldn't be engaging in sexual activity.. it doesn't matter what your feeling are or the thoughts in your head... a 16yr old boy wants to makeout with his Prom date.. it feels right to him ...it's still wrong.. (see provb 14:12) reading pornography, masterbation is also commdemmned (Matt 5:27-28)
What is a Bible Marriage?
The Bible defines Marriage initially as Adam & Eve (one man & one women) NOT Adam & Steve... or Eve & Kristy.. the Old testiment does have cases where One man was married to several Women.. (personally I think any Guy agreeing to this is crazy)
But I thought God loves everyone? can a Gay person be Christian?
absolutely true.. God Loves everyone, it is our behavour & actions.. perhaps your purpose in life isn't to be married or have a family, you could have a higher calling in fact people that overcome Same gender attraction or great temptations in thier life recieve Special blessing from God (see James 1:12-16) sex isn't required to express love.. countless examples of this exist.
DVD Review: A Surprizingly Well Balanced Film
Summary: 4 Stars
For The Bible Tells Me So was a pleasant surprize. I guess I didn't expect the film to be so balanced from both extreme points of view. I thought it was informative, interesting and entertaining. I would recommend this film for the educational value alone. The film interweaves five family stories as well as various interpretations of theology experts. There was also a short, especially entertaining cartoon in the middle of the film. It covers the range of intolerance to acceptance with some sadness and joy. I credit the courage of those involved in the film.
Description of For The Bible Tells Me So
Winner of the Audience Award for Best Documentary at the Seattle Interntional Film Festival, Dan Karslake's provocative, entertaining documentary brilliantly reconciles homosexuality and Biblical scripture, and in the process reveals that Church-sanctioned anti-gay bias is based solely upon a significant (and often malicious) misinterpretation of the Bible. As the film notes, most Christians live their lives today without feeling obliged to kil anyone who works on the Sabbath or eats shrimp.Through the experience of five very normal, very Christian , very American families - including those of former House Majority Leader Richard Gephardt and Episcopalian Bishop Gene Robinson - we discover how insightful people of faith handle the realization of having a gay child. With commentary by such respected voices as Bishop Desmond Tutu, Harvard's Peter Gomes, Orthodox Rabbi Steve Greenberg and Reverend Jimmy Creech, For The Bible Tells Me So offers healing, clarity and understanding to anyone caught in the crosshairs of scripture and sexual identity.
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